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Well, see, I'm confused. I mean, okay, I got to get current. I mean, I was licensed 31 years ago, and when I was licensed, you had to be advanced to do all of that, same as EchoLink nodes and all the rest of it. They didn't speak of EchoLink nodes until maybe my 10 years into it, right, because of 9.4, they didn't have it. They didn't have VOIP stuff, like you go on the internet and fool around and then have that. So one of the Americans perfected EchoLink while one of the Canadians was working on RLP. So I got to see it develop as a kid, but I'm guessing maybe they're modifying licenses for that, right, maybe setting up the rules for that, I don't know. So maybe there's revisions, but in my day, no. You could be an American techie tech if you want to run a machine, and they're all over the place, like in the tri-state and especially western New York, there's tons of techie tech repeaters, like 15-year-olds own a lot of those frequencies, but I thought Canada was more into bogarting, like, well, no, no, no, they're afraid of people bogarting. So just to make sure, we want to have these people advance. So unless that's changed, I think Daryl said that it's changed, and he'd have his ear to the ground closer than I do, because he's licensed a little more recently than I was.