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Well, my business Joel and congratulations on your first PODA activation. And yes, I think Dean gave an excellent talk. And there are very different ways to do PODA and SODA. One of the more SODA, SODA like ways to do PODA is doing QRP, CW. That's what I want to do. And one of my sources for how to do that is on YouTube. They're videos by I think K4SWL who is a QRP CW SODA activator. And the video is just watch what he's doing. It's just like, wow, that's it. That's how to do it. And I get jazzed up just listening to them. Plus, I'm trying to get my...
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