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Well in fact, catch up on a couple of podcasts. I'm behind. And listen to my usual scheduled radio shows. And then that's pretty much it. And uh, yeah I kind of distinguish like, PAM bands, like conversations that I could get in on. As opposed to just talk radio where I'm just kind of zoning out. And I'm only half interested on what's going on. So it's kind of uh, it's just two separate things for me. Oh and yeah, sideband. Well the hash and trash doesn't bother me. I mean I'm kind of used to it. You kind of get like that playing on HF. But if I can get away from it, like if I don't need to do that, then I won't. So that's kind of how that goes. But yeah, I realize you have the squelch wide open so you don't miss the weak stations. And so it's better to just hear everything outright instead of trying to filter it and miss stuff. So I understand that. Well I'm not a, I mean, you're not going to explain it. You're not going to explain it to just everybody, you know. I wouldn't even bother. Like if, I think when my mom used to say, how can you listen to that? I didn't have an answer. I would just say very carefully.