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Thanks Michel, appreciate that and he's got a nice looking station there on QRZ and yeah you can do a lot with the verticals you know, not a lot of space doesn't matter you can still be pretty successful on ham radio and have a lot of fun for sure and I have to say we didn't have such a hot summer here this year. You guys seem to be cooking out there in Ontario and Quebec when we were, yeah particularly we had a few hot days here and there but the summer will be remembered as being kind of cool and smoky, man we have a lot of smoke. Anyway thanks Michel, appreciate it, we're here every week, please check in again. Open it up again, check-ins anywhere, we've got another 29 minutes and we are in danger of finishing early so let's not do that but that depends on you. Anybody to check in to the Trans-Canada Net, please join us now.