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I tried that before between the two programs, copy and paste, which I thought worked well. Apparently it didn't. The other program seems to have different columns for different information than CERC. My deceiver, my Yasu 2900 works. The Bao fan works. These new ones are giving me a slight problem. They can't even hear me when I translate. I can't send them back because it's been some time. Since I'm not the sharpest person in the crowd, I didn't figure out that it was not working. I'm going to try. I'm going to keep on trying. I'm a true believer in not giving up. Here I go.