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Now we're all a bunch of amateur but we're all a bunch of amateur. Well I know a guy that when he said professional it was kind of sarcastic because he called like the serious DXers on CB professionals but he was being sarcastic. Because he would say, hey Kevin you're not trying to be one of those professionals are you? You know those guys right? 9, alpha tango, 719 and I'm standing by. That was the fake call I used when I used to talk to what he called the professionals, the DXers that had their two letter clubs. Almost kind of like how the 10 meters have their clubs. There's the fake call.