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What was interesting to me, I can actually tell you it was quite recent. It was during the part of spring this year in London. Now you talk about visiting a hot dog factory. I visited a cracker factory that was made where this little small grocery store where I was getting my groceries, they make their own crackers. So I got to visit with a couple of people. They said, how would you like to go down to the... They didn't call it like the cracker factory. But they explained to us what they were doing there. And yeah, the interesting thing was they had those rollers. You go into this big room and there were these noisy, noisy, huge steam roller like kind of things and they were the rollers that basically punch holes into the crackers because...