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All right, Tim. Well, I found that that anti-slip paint you have to really stir the heck out of that Which I know you already know But it could be that that one paint is not as good as some others I have I have used some in the past But again, you have to continually stir practically I have used some of the past that you know fairly fairly well distribute that anti-slip stuff whether it's ground up Well, I think I think there was one that had apricot Cores in them ground up or something strange and there's ones that have something like fan like you mentioned there But yeah, anyway, and how about those anti-slip strips that you can cut and put around stairs? Have you tried those with any success?