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Well hello Jack and hello to everyone on the net and for Tim for your drippy pipe that you're trying to solder I have successfully used white bread not the crust but white bread you watered up and shove it in the pipe and that stops the water long enough for you to get the pipe heated up so that the solder will suck right into that joint And then once you turn the water back on the water dissolves the bread and you're good to go It's worked for me and many others I know You may already know that but heard your story about it here Thanks for running that Jack gotta run hope everyone has a wonderful day 73 to everyone out there from everyone here. This is jk70cd