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We'll find business Bill. Yeah I have been to the the big one. I think that the traveling one is it a quarter scale I think I've heard something like that that's a one quarter scale model of it but I was to the the original big one the wall the healing wall there in DC in the time in the 80s I can't remember exactly it was right after it had been built and it was it was either somewhere between like 1979 80 or 81 in there or it could have been after I got out of the Navy and it might have been like the mid 80s or something but yeah I remember it it was pretty emotional because it wasn't that long after Vietnam and I'm post Vietnam I joined the army in 1978 but yeah I spent I spent a good hour at it just I didn't know any of the names on the wall but I was you could touch the wall put your hand on it and and look at the names and and it's a pretty pretty heavy experience write things down here and yeah I said I forget exactly when I turned up on the PSRG repeater originally it wasn't long after I moved to move to Seattle unfortunately right my first year someone stole my ham equipment they broke it was a burglary and they took both my phones and my computer and my my ham transceivers