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Yes, I had to miss Kirk's presentation because on Saturdays I usually go to a women's circle at a place called Recovery Cafe. And if I wait until 1330 to leave, that's what the local time is when the educational meeting is. And if I stay at home that long, even to catch the first half hour of it or so, I get to the Recovery Cafe too late to have lunch. So it's a terrible thing. Although the operator who presented that was Kirk, AG7YM, AlphaGolf7, Yankee Mike is his call sign. And he certainly, in fact I'll look up his CuresEd page right now because I'm sure he mentions all this. AG7YM with one finger and there he is, Kirk S. Goddard. Well there's ShaqPix. I love ShaqPix. Folks, you know I do love ShaqPix. He's got code and stuff on there. He designs his own software. There's the, oh my goodness, that's a pretty scary image for Slow Scan. But yes, look he's got a gallery of Slow Scan image captures. Anyway, if all else fails you could contact Kirk, AG7YM who is in CuresEd. And a clever email. He does have a valid email there.