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I was right on the end where they were starting a microcomputer starting to take over. So, yeah, dodge that bullet. But yeah, I did run. I did do to punch some codes and boy, if you messed up or dropped them or something, you're screwed. Question? Hey, go ahead. Question. Hi, I'm Dan Ticci, a MSA. Question for both of you guys. Did you ever make a Christmas wreath out of those IBM cards? And not for me. I was fortunate, like Aaron, my first semester was the very first semester in Sac State where, when you took the Fortran programming class, you did not have to use punch cards. You could use a terminal. How about you, Aaron? Well, I've seen them. I never made or had one.