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kind of was one of them where she would on purpose but on the holiday you know and nowhere close to the holiday. Yeah you know it's funny on certain short-wing programs because yes I do still listen to the Netherlands and a few things and yes I listen to the podcast but on the radio shows though. Part of it is they admit it and the other part is I have had people tell me that you will hear podcasting and verticines and while I know that could be true with regular AM if you listen to our Toronto 680 680 new or CFR B 1010 because I'm not gonna name another station since they can some people that I like but anyways if you listen to those