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I think he was on the truck radio and they had their portable open and it was just echoing like crazy. I was trying to make heads or tails of what he was saying. He had to repeat himself once the other person turned down their radio because it was unintelligible so I don't think they paid for the upgrade. Yeah that's fair. I can tell you certainly on our test for radios our work they've got really good feedback filtering so if you're sitting next to your partner in the car or whatever they you don't hear anything it's quite nice. Both DMR and P25 are about the same delay in KB3JQQ.