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my notes and for the real little rubber ducties on my antenna and that's it. I think my wife would probably divorce me if I went back to the way I used to be with antennas. So anyhow what was my point? My point I guess is basically you know yeah you can go all the way and if you do that's fantastic but the reward to me just wasn't worth it. It just it wasn't enough there to do it. Back to that control KB0MAI.