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behind the scenes but anyway it's 48 degrees 2965 barometer has been going up from where it was yesterday that's for sure mostly blue sky up there but I see some clouds coming up from the south right now tiny bit of wind from the southwest and yeah you're right about the upper bay of the 15th is pretty alike they must have a RTTY contest and maybe a CW contest too and let's see what else was I gonna mention oh I'm giving a presentation today for the Puget Tower Peter group at 130 so if anyone wants to come see me embarrass myself just check the Puget Tower Peter groups website there's a link there KB7RYY okay thanks Dan have a good time with that probably won't see you but I'll I'll be following along I'll say Susan said she was out until the 16th so Dan are you with us center you had a bad night last night KJ7 TNA