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back off of the Echo 7 Microbial. The way I got into him radio here in the valley we had a big land and it took down a lot of the high power lines, you know, the ones that he's between Mexico and Canada, which basically took our grid, cleared down. We didn't even have 911 services and so my, basically my ward building, he asked me to become a radio operator and he says, I'll pay for your classes, I'll pay for your license and he says, I'll even buy a radio and I had just gotten my back pay from 14 years of fighting with Social Security I said, no I said I'll take care of it.