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Okay, now, so Chuck, when you first got your test, did you take it totally on your own? Or were you behind a ham club or a body of yours? Over to you. Yeah, thanks, Kevin. I went to Radio Shack in Baltimore, West. Now this study guide, and it came with cassette tapes. So I put those in the boom box to learn the code. I studied the theory. I took the test of the friend's house and the camanabas. And a month later, I made a month later, I got my call. And I love the code, I really love learning it. I was fascinated by it. And that's what I work now with CW on HF. I work a few contacts each day. I just always enjoyed it.