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I've met him a couple times back in Dayton and once in California. So that's how I did it. And like Jeff, I've tried working on the extra, but always something comes up. And Gordon Ramsay got to go to the corn west. Yeah. I learned about cooking from Gordon Ramsay. That helped me with intent on tuning. But yeah, I've tried to. I tried doing the extra just no time to really get into it. There's so much other stuff to do now. I mean, back in the day before there was podcast and