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various friends I've had like a what I call a banter cast I have a great name for it but I'm not going to tell you when they are where where people just have a conversation going back and forth of course my style is to do in stereo so you close your eyes it's like they're sitting there in the room with you well I've been watching a lot of really good webcast and you know people like Rachel Maddow and and Michael Wolf and and Heather Cox Richardson and just in conversations with people and and and they're all set up you know with not just high-quality audio but with visuals as well I thought you know I'm gonna try I'm gonna try doing a video webcast with Vincent anyway you could be a guest appearance that's what we're going to do with people feminist podcast with intersectional and