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to the question about the Fitzgerald and all that business up in the Great Lakes. I grew up in Cleveland. Actually, I was in the suburb of Cleveland called Lakewood. And that was two blocks from Lake Erie. The thing about Lake Erie is its shallow. It's something like 200 feet at the max. And it really stirs up only to get a good blow. So, yeah, you can have really rough seas there. And during my time between semesters and college, I worked for a republic deal, we made steel and open-heart furnaces and rolling mills and all that. And of course, the four boats would come down from exterior into Cleveland and we'd make iron ore and finally end up making steel.

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