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uh... like superior can be i mean people think of the great lake uh... that don't live here is you know somewhat called uh... but superior can be as rough as any uh... any ocean and uh... the sailors paid for their lives uh... when uh... they ran into uh... uh... bad storm back then so yeah big deal around here jack uh... thanks for bringing that up uh... i think cvz back to you right here i think there was a talk about that yet it was a big deal of still being celebrated through song and stories have very interesting all right that have to see if maybe you can send me some information if there's a big book on the history of lake shipping lake greatly shipping that the interesting to see what that is well anyway bill have a great afternoon and i'm glad you get better take care of all right we had a station with low audio come in i still didn't get anything other than alpha hotel in the call