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to the question about the Fitzgerald and all that business up in the Great Lakes. I grew up in Cleveland. Actually, I was the suburb of Cleveland called Lakewood. And that was two blocks from Lake Erie. The thing about Lake Erie is it's shallow, something like 200 feet at the max. And it really stirs up only in a good blow. So, yeah, you can have some rough peas there. And during my time between semesters and dollars I worked for Republic Steel, we made steel and open-heart furnaces and rolling the oaks and all that. And of course, the four boats have come down from exterior into Cleveland and these make iron ore and finally end up making steel. So, it's all very...