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and snow in the Sierra's looks promising a couple of feet maybe by the time this is all said and done. And they're actually saying for California that the extended outlook through the end of November looks wet. So El Nino is in force for you guys and then we'll talk about back here. Over there to you sir WB6BJ. Okay yeah WB6BJ and 6H for the coffee bignette. Yeah I think you're definitely right there about being El Nino being in force. You know you look at what's happened to Southern California and you know they've had massive wave you know back there and they've had to build up retaining walls and stuff to protect homes and things. And then you know Grade was talking about the Bismol beach and you know the sand and basically it's been rearranged.