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get nasty they'll get blocked up and they'll drain really slow like what you're talking about best thing to do get an old soup ladle and once you get the water out dig out until you get down to the gravel I think you'll find that there's all kinds of crap in there but don't let me reset don't know the last time when we rebuild the decking over it because this started last winter right and I figured hey the whole must have some mud down there maybe leaves and they froze and now it's not draining so in the summer when I were in the spring when all the ice and snow was gone we tore up the deck and rebuilt it and I got down there and I went to the cross stone with my hand and I dug everything I would work off on mud leaves crap just just nasty this