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KI-70K, do you want DTV returning? Ah! So there is, yes, well, I was using humboid I say was using until I decided to have a go at my antenna. So I'm a little bit behind the times now, hence basically I call it, which works for me anyway. This way it sounds as though people are listening and as you say, if you're a command line proficient, which when it first came out, I probably got to being semi-efficient until they decided to go to that company.