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hobby and stuff that they had it periodically separate from like photography, separate from the computer, like guitar, kind of like John's, which I used to play pretty good. But then kind of set that aside. They've got me inspired, so maybe now I'll get back in the middle, we'll see. But the ham radio I've always done, too often, and I've always had some type of ham shack, either in the portable ham shack or a real elaborate one or two. And a elaborate one or something for the years. And, man, is this different now? Is this different now than it was 40 years ago, that's for sure. It's like a whole different deal, completely different. And the big thing back then, of course, is H.F. because that was it. Internet existed, but it had gone commercial for a year, maybe, something like that. So if you want to talk a little bit about H.F. was it. Now you've got...