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5 milliwatts coming out of the little all-star node. But back in 2001 ARRL handbook, that's hard to say, they had a 25 watt amplifier. And what I'm trying to do is to take all that through whole technology and make it with SMD parts. And obviously, some of the components now are better than they were 25 years ago. So that's what I'm trying to do. And I actually think I have rationale for why it might work, but I've never checked it with anybody who knows what they're talking about. So left to my own devices. That's what's going on. W7SCA. All right, well, I bet you can find references to that amplifier you're building there in QST issues around the same time. Get over to archive.org. Look up those old back issues. Look up specifically that.