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I or what was the other one North North it something I forget Columbia I think anyway sitting here gonna work on a Brazilian piece for guitar turned out pretty good on Saturday night there were four of us that showed up that's always a lot of but we played for about an hour hour and 15 minutes and so no real plans for today I may go at noon to central market pick up a slight slice of pizza and who knows what I'll be doing anyway yeah I will probably see you soon we could talk for about guitars and everything so that will be nice KG7 WV well thank you Bill for you checking there yeah the family and I used to do a lot of camping