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Okay, very good. I'm using an antenna here as a vertical indoor antenna, a colon ear. That's about six feet long and a friend of mine makes these insults and guiding it at phone and I bought this from him. Actually, he gave it to me a few years ago. Yeah, it's a road robust antenna And so when I was living down in the Bay Area San Francisco Bay Area he gave me one of these and carries ever since totally totally rugged antenna and where it's apparently works well over.