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Yeah, I hear you there Larry and I've seen that happen before with my computer it decided to update. Of course I don't use Echo Link on it very much. I probably could start using it but yeah, I think mine is my current one that I've been using up to this point is trying to take a dive on me. So yeah, I've been seeing that. One thing you got to watch for is that blue McAfee screen at your McAfee subscription or whatever is supposedly expired and needs to be updated and that kind of nonsense. I don't know. Yeah, computers can be fun but they can really be a challenge at times. Alright Larry, have a good day and hey, keep up the good work on your end, that control and keep coming back because this net wouldn't be the same without you. Alright, we are now clear with 88 RER and we'll go way up here to The Rock and we'll say hello to Darrell, the 01 UKZ. The mic is yours Darrell. We're glad you're here with us.