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It's nice getting both sides to a story. Well, one of the things I learned, like with views, because I didn't know how to approach it on ham radio pretty much ever. And once I saw a lady that was basically thinking like the people, that's what I liked about her opinions. They were crafted to be like the people, not an empty robot. I was like, okay, that's how I'll do it then. So yeah, I think in terms, and I'm on the side for the disabled, the minorities, being like half black myself, being disabled too, that helps. And then just sort of being a friend, a defender of the underling. You know that, because people will screw up and I'll explain it away. But yeah, so now I know how to kind of approach it. I really didn't prior to the pandemic. I was like, how do you guys get down? I've been licensed for decades and I gotta ask. So that's kind of how it was.