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7TJQ, thank you so much Graham for that advice. I thought it might have changed. There's still a lot of conflicting information out on the interwebs at the moment but I do remember my foundation book saying that they were optional so I didn't know if they were or if they weren't but they are. Okay that's great to know but I can use them so here we go. Mike Whiskey 7 Tango Juliet Quebec. When you said Buddy's name he did open his eyes so he's very sleepy right now but yeah thank you so much for the welcome and yeah I hope to join you back again next week but I'll stick around to listen to everyone's news and yeah thank you so much. 73.