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We had four or five people, we just chit-chat and a friend of mine told me about a dude drop in and that's why I found out, wow, people have radios connected to the computer, so I did the same thing. So I can actually drive around town with my, you know, and talk about radio and go through EchoLink or walk around town by HT and do the same thing. So yeah, EchoLink is not cheating. You're, I said, if you look at the screen, you'll see, right, you'll see, right, well, your name is an AllStarLink, VO1, UKZ, that's sterile and he's in St. John's Newfoundland. Right now, when I'm talking, I am on the air in St. John's Newfoundland. Let's see, you got another one, an AllStarHub, W7JCA-L and right below that's another link, so anywhere there's a dash L or dash R, that station is putting you over the air.