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Yeah Roger, he's a great guy, he's still alive, he does commentary at air shows now. And yeah he's an absolutely great chap. But some of the best pilots you'll never see, some of the best pilots are flying freight all hours of day and night. You know I wouldn't want to fly passengers if I was going to fly commercially I'd fly mail or freight. You know it's customer facing thing. I'd buy a plane ticket for 50 bucks since he owns the plane, you know and that doesn't work for me. I'd rather take cargo or anything anytime. But no flying for me anymore now, I'm 72 years old now. And I still drive motorcycles, I still drive my cars, flying is out of the window for me now. But you know it's great days, great days. We can all live a very safe life, I don't think I've taken any undue risks. My risks have been different risks to other people's risks. Over.

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