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about taking money when my mom moved over to, she moved over to John Day or actually out of Seneca about 50 acres, moved in there, no electricity, was cooking on a wood stove. But she asked if I could loan her a credit card so he could take her into the doctor and sell her 20 miles into the town there. Let me drop this a second. So anyhow, he was working in the Seneca gas station and people would come in and pay cash and he would just ring that up on my credit card. So in one month's time I got a $3,000 credit card, which I never got back. And so we didn't talk for a long time and then we did make a mess a few years and finally he drank himself.