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Yes, that's how I'm interested Jack. I did live in Phoenix for four years and Nevada, for Reno, Nevada for one year. I did make it north, made it to, went to Hawaii, I've been there a few times. Made it to the Grand Canyon and where else do we go? I went to, oh absolutely beautiful, drove to Flagstaff and when we were in Reno, when I lived in Reno we went to, oh I can't think of the lake, oh it's a famous lake in Nevada, Reno, Nevada. It's near Truckee, there's a town called Truckee and you go to, there's a lake and I went there in the middle of winter when it was iced over and some of the houses there were absolutely beautiful. Oh I just can't think of the lake, oh you might know what it is Jack, oh no. Yes we have cables, thick cables, very thick cables, they're sort of like criss-cross that stabilise that tower and we have had many climbers climb to the top of the tower via the cables. Man you've got to have some guts to do that, I don't know how they did it but they do it all the time and they don't mind getting caught by the police, I think the fine's only about $500 to $1000 but climbing, I suppose the rush they get is worth getting a fine for $1000. So yeah I'll put it back to you Jack, maybe you can think of that lake in Nevada, it's near Truckee, a town called Truckee, it's absolutely beautiful. That's about it Jack, I'll put it back to you, thanks a lot, VK2810, back to Jack.