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Yeah, you may ask. I, you know, I have rods and screws in my back because my rib, my rib cage was coming apart. I guess that's the way to explain it, but and that was fixed through an operation I think you might know a couple years ago and man oh man now my back, pain radiating from my back to my front all the way down the front of my leg and so yeah they did some, they did an MRI. I think you might remember that I had that done a couple weeks ago and the report was that it's progressive and what was the other word they used? Oh, severe and progressive spinal stenosis is where the bone, the spinal column closes up on the nerves so it makes it impossible and very, very excruciating to stand or walk so that's the reason why we couldn't go, but yeah I've asked my doctor, the substitute doctor, I asked her for a referral to a neurosurgeon so it looks like I'm going to get operated on again at least if the VA gets off of their butt and starts working on me so there you go. VE4YYL, young, young lady, good to hear you, KB2RQQ.