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Yeah I understand all that from G3ZHR just uh, chilling the radio a bit from the wind, a bit windy, well it's a phone actually. I'm on a Samsung Galaxy and uh, I have a cooling comet. But uh, yeah I'm familiar with these uh, people, you know survivors or whatever they are. We tend not to have that in ham radio for England, it's just a hobby. And uh, you know we accept that the emergency services have sort of uh, have their own systems and got it all covered. We used to have activity that way, but not so much now. And yeah I've been out in the Middle East myself, been to Dubai quite a few times, been to Kuwait, Iraq, Iran and all those different places. I was in the Merchant Marine, so uh, I've registered them, over.