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Well you can switch to some Australian nets and they are, they must be like 12 hours different and they are very social. I actually found an Australian tech net and then I found an Australian net that was interested in airplanes and flying and I was listening to them for a while. Now here Echolink at times people want to talk about, Tugget's got interested in so I just turned it off. And then on Echolink I prefer the early morning ragtune nets. So somebody will come on in about a half an hour usually and it's a ragtune. So if they are ragtune about subjects that I'm not interested in then I just turn the volume down. And then when the main Echolink net starts if somebody is interested in, again in subjects I'm not interested in, I just turn the volume down or switch channels. So in the central part of California there's a large free net. And if you're an H-Epper on about 7200 there's a HS net that sort of begins in the Bay Area. I'm an H-Epper at heart and I'm switching over to the antennas. What's it called? The antenna where the signal goes straight up and comes straight almost straight down. And where I live in southern eastern California the straight down part goes to the Bay Area. So I'm hoping to be able to get HF into these people that run this 7200 net. Some people want to use HF because they believe that something horrible might happen like a giant earthquake and then the repeaters won't be functional. But the HS people can still talk. Go ahead Ian.