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Ian, yes, I'm 85 right now and I was a petroleum engineer working for oil company for Conoco and I've been to England many, many times. I never actually worked like in the North Sea but I had discussions. I visited Norway once, similar kinds of discussions. Mostly I worked in the Persian Gulf off of Dubai and Kuwait in the desert. It's true, I've talked to Papa. In the Papa system, if you need to communicate to Papa like in an emergency, there's no charge. But if you want to become a regular and be heard, they don't actually force you to pay but they insinuate you ought to pay. And if you imagine, there's a repeater like Los Angeles is surrounded by mountains so you can have a repeater up 3,000 meters high where there's snow and ice in the winter so it costs a significant amount of money to fix the repeaters. So you can see why they need money. Go ahead, Ian.

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