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KB7, PW, yeah, boy everybody's coming in for today. Yesterday about half the people were underwater but the person with, oh boy, urinary problem, they put a device in my back called a onyx I think therapy a X O N I C S therapy control and it has a remote control and I can incontinence control and might work for you you might check with your urologist or actually my back doctor put it in for me I don't think the urologist really knew about it at first so Mike check out on Google or something a X O N I C S good luck oh no you want to feel old it's been 20 years at Katrina kv7 pvw