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Okay Dave, thanks for being with us. And the Ham Reel on the Patio. I got a couple of friends that had interesting setups. They were in, one of them was in an area that was restricted to antennas. The other one was not, but he just did it this way because he wanted to. He actually had some wire antennas up, but he decided he wanted to try one of these vertical antennas, push up vertical antennas. I've got an Eagle I antenna and that's how it's made. I don't know if he had an Eagle I or some other brand, but it was basically a telescoping vertical antenna. And he put it on the railing of his back deck on the 70. He lived on the edge of the lake. It was a space in the lake, nobody could see it from the road. Of course, actually there was a whole lot of trees between him and the road that would have been able to see it anyway. But that's beside the point. He put it up there and he worked pretty good with that. He ran some wire around the handrail on the deck as radials. And he said that helped him a lot. I've never tried using radials on my, mine's mounted on the back of my RV, so it's kind of hard to drag radials down the street. I'd have to hook them up and disconnect them every time we used it. So I don't typically use radials. That tune's just fine. It probably would work better with some radials, I don't know. But anyway. The other one was a senior citizen who's still around today, I guess he's still got the same set up, moved into a senior's home, self-assisted living that's on your own, the there if you need them kind of a thing. They provide you with meals and transportation and stuff like that that you still live on your own. He designed a push out antenna, basically it was another vertical antenna but he pushed it out of the window horizontally and ran it out that way out of his window in his apartment. I don't know how he got by with that but he did. He ran that for a long time. I think as far as I know he's still running it today. He's in the Raleigh area, North Carolina. And he got to get into some interesting set ups if you get out there looking for him. Alright, thanks for being with us and stick around for the lightning round Dave. That brings us down to the bottom of the list currently, KI6-HOB. Mark, you're up from K4-HM. Tell us how you got into Ham radio.