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Ok Jerry, I got started in a TV repair shop. My dad worked on a lot of TVs. He wanted to get me involved in electronics because I was a rebellious youth. I didn't want to do anything that Dad did. So I kind of stared away from it until I went to that class and that piqued my interest in it. But yeah, I talked a lot about hand-making with my dad after I got into it. Alright, Kenny7ron. So Ron had some problems, he says, technical issues there. Let's see if he's back yet. Kenny7ron from K4HM.