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just had to know the syllabus and like the back your hand draw circuits and stuff like that and then okay say go and design an oscillator for a certain frequency so you do the drawing you do it and it says right what components of the use so you got to calculate the components and all that kind of good stuff it was good fun but they have made it a lot simpler here now in the UK since then that's for sure but you know you get your ticket and you get on the air and you talk to everybody and just have fun. KF8GFWHAS is that out. G8WZ from Kilo Fox dot eight, Gilo Fox dot whiskey. Alright thank you very much on that now you reminded me what I was going to tell you the question pools that what was that is what