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All right, hey great to hear you dad. Thank you so much for coming in Let's go talk to bill and I have a kind of a technical question for him and is one of his projects bill k7 WSB, how are you? I'm very good Jack. I'm interested in your technical question I'm also interested I just turned on the net at the end of the last round you were talking to John and mentioned Barry K7 pal and mesh tastic Could you just tell me what you guys are talking about and what your technical question and then I have another comment back to you