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they were there. So that's like saying about that. And then yesterday I went to the veterans ceremony at a local park which was really large and being a U.S. Army veteran. Well, it was really quite uplifting and I can tell you that I felt like I was part of a group so because I'd run into other veterans and they had their caps on and stuff and identifying themselves and we chit-chatted and are things so really neat so so I'm looking forward to the veterans day ceremony on PBS tonight so it will be our Washington DC. So anyway, you know, say about that. And I could see a wind down and amateur radio. I could even see it yesterday at our booth out there at the park so that we had not very much interest by the people that happened to its free fair and their things so I think I'd see a wind down and amateur radio. Thanks, thank you.