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especially when Kelly switched from Auburn High School to the new school at Auburn Riverside. When she went there, you know, all the great, all the good players had stayed back at Auburn High School and Auburn at that time had a really good volleyball team and a really good basketball team and it is a basketball team that I think had finished second in state one year and whatever and you know when she went to Riverside they didn't win a basketball game until about halfway through their second year and so forth but you know we got a chance to watch him go through that and everything and I pointed that out to Kai when he had that bad year last year with the hockey team. I said you learn from that you know you learn how it is that you're you know you rely on your teammates and so forth you keep everybody boosted up and going and so forth and you got a you got a