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all that stuff but yeah I have to watch those guys it's like fishing lures for fishermen yeah I've got I got my favorite lures for cocaine and my favorite jigs for pink salmon and favorite jigs for shadook and silvers and yeah I do have my opinion as a fisherman based on my experience I guess I'm gonna be curious because he's a full-clite in Olympia and I could hear him talk to him when he was in Shahelas and my not Montana I thought I'm gaining and I want to and I could barely get into it to the 220 computer from Shahelas