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and what were their backpacks like? Were they kind of medium heavy? Heavy for a kid? What? So all they had in their backpacks was their sleeping bags. They had a pretty light introduction. Although Leo did carry the Coleman stone. So that, and good on him for that. Lucy was given a gallon of water to carry, and she carried it about halfway. The trail was only a third of a mile each way. So she carried it about a sixth of a mile, quarter a while, something like that. But they did really good, and I'm really proud of them. So for being seven and eight, they did great. I'm quite thrilled. I think we probably packed a little bit light. I at least wish I had brought pillows, but that's OK. Still had a great time. Back to you, K-E7 and UI.